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Thursday, March 30, 2006

AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match

I've got an Atwater Kent E-3 speaker and the base was unquestionably painted gold from the factory.  It's even gold between the base/spkr housing. It's kind of gawdy- is this a common paint job?  The spkr housing is the usual dark brown wrinkle.

Also I been able to perfectly match the dark brown AK wrinkle paint (the 40's, 44's, etc)- Eastwood black wrinkle spray paint #1230- it MUST BE KEPT WARM FOR THE FIRST HOUR- I USED A HEAT GUN; and when dry, an overspray with a diluted mix of semi-gloss black enamel, Rustoleum "leather brown", and paint thinnner. The overspray requires an airbrush. Comments?  -Pete O.

12 Comments:

  • At 10:38 AM, Anonymous cuhu...@webtv.net said…

    I am too drunk right now,,, but when I get undrunk,, I will check out that big round heavy metal case speaker sitting on one of the dressers in my front bedroom/junkroom (the self same room I put my little doggy in there when I go out shopping) I also have an old octagon shaped Zenith radio speaker (sitting on top amid lots of other junk) on top of my old Zenith 1965 floor model tv set in that room.The Zenith speakers octagon grill cloth has like a vase with flowers on the grill cloth and I also own a really weird looking Zenith antenna.Bunches or other old weirdy radios and radio related thangys too.eBay will Never see any of me posessions. cuhulin

     
  • At 11:38 AM, Anonymous Bill Sheppard said…

    From Mr.cuhulin:

    Hey dude. Don't advertize it. Webtv'ers already have a bad enuff reputation as it is, as the 'trailer trash' of the internet.                  :-) Bill(oc)

     
  • At 2:53 PM, Anonymous Pete_O said…

     but when I get undrunk,, I will check out

    **Isn't it awful early in the day?

    Don't go to nuts over this and injure yourself.  I now see a couple of Ebay posts with this speaker and the base looks gold under the dirt.  It's an easy shade to match so I guess I'll go with the original gawdiness. Tnx, Pete

     
  • At 6:53 PM, Anonymous cuhu...@webtv.net said…

    Geez,some computer users (I also own a Velocity Micro ProMagix computer that I bought for $1,290 brand new three years ago from www.velocitymicro.com    and a wireless Gyration   www.gyration.com mini keyboard (it's even smaller than my little webtv wireless keyboard) and mouse because I like mini size keyboards I can hold in my left hand and one finger hunt and peck/type on with the index finger of my right hand and a 22 inch screen Multisync computer monitor I bought from tigerdirect.com and a couple of days ago at the Goodwill store,I bought a Logitech wireless model  Y-RJ20 RT7R04 V: 5XTW keyboard,Heck,only five dollars,why not?) have a drink once in a while too,ya know? I am sixty four years young,I reckon I can have me brew once in a while.Anyway,I sobered up enough to take a look at my old Atwater Kent speaker that is sitting on top of some dresser drawers in my front bedroom/junk room.I bought the speaker for forty five dollars about ten years ago at the Flowers Flea Market.It is a heavy speaker too.It is a round metal case speaker and it measures about twelve and a half inches diameter on the front of the speaker.Model number of the speaker is Type F-4 Radio Speaker.Serial number of the speaker is 2115604.The speaker has six round holes on the rear of the speaker,they measure about two and a half inches diameter.The metal grill of the speaker is some narrow horizontal bars and vertical bars with diagonal bars.The speaker is mounted on a sort of ornate looking base/pedestal.There is grill cloth on the front and rear of the speaker. cuhulin

     
  • At 9:08 PM, Anonymous Gary Tayman said…

    If you're able to mix up paint and get a perfect match, wonderful!  However a good alternative might be to check with an automotive paint store.  There happens to be a shop in Bradenton that is excellent; when I've needed paints for various purposes for my T-bird, they have come through every time.  Of course there's extreior paint, which they matched by code.  However there is also paint for the dashboard, steering column, and other parts that they matched by scanning a sample of the original from a clean spot.  Each time they've made the paint, they took into consideration where it would be used -- the right shade of satin for the steering column, for example.  They also mixed up dye for the vinyl parts.  In every case they've been happy to mix up one or two spray bombs or even a small touch-up vial, without hesitation.

    I might add that some places are more helpful than others.  I know of another paint shop that couldn't give a rat's behind about what you need --   give them a code and they'll mix up a few gallons, or if you want it in a spray bomb you must buy a minimum of 20.

    Now -- I've never asked about wrinkle paint, but if I need some I can certainly check.  Krylon wrinkle paint is available readily at most auto parts stores in black, and that's the most common color anyway.  However if you want brown or other colors, you can always wrinkle paint the black, then add the color later on with regular paint.

    As for my experience with wrinkle paint -- I paint the object, then add a second coat after 5-10 minutes, then possibly a third coat.  After another 15-20 minutes I apply a hair dryer.  At first it appears nothing is happening, but then it begins to wrinkle, and before long the wrinkle covers the entire job.  When dry the finish looks great!  If it's a warm day I just set the pieces out in the sun.

    -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars ...

     
  • At 9:23 PM, Anonymous Jeffrey D Angus said…

    I use the kitchen oven.

    I put on two moderately heavy coats about 5 minutes apart then set it in the oven at the lowest setting and come back and hour or two later. (Typically when I remember or my wife complains.)

    Nice uniform tight wrinkle pattern every time.

    Jeff

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  • At 9:38 PM, Anonymous Pete_O said…

    I use the kitchen oven.

    Jeff- I thought of that but slso of the chance of minor explosion as the paint gives off fumes in a gas oven.  With no warm sun in NJ at this time of year, I'll stick to the hair dryer too.  I should note that the dk brown overspray doesn't detract from the wrinkle- just changes the color.- Pete

     
  • At 10:08 PM, Anonymous Pete_O said…

    If you're able to mix up paint and get a perfect match, wonderful! Howevera good alternative might be to check with an automotive paint store. ***Been there, done that- and it came out horrible.  The local paint matching computer must have been sick those days.  Now I have a quart of ugly brownish paint that is good for basement floor only.  I found that mixing my own enamel from little half pint cans is quick, easy, and accurate. Tnx for comments.  -Pete

     
  • At 1:53 AM, Anonymous Gary Tayman said…

    Here's a thought if you plan on doing very much of this:  Dan Schulz of Antique Automobile Radio has an old broken refrigerator.  He installed a light -- standard bulb of around 100 watts or so -- and uses this just for the purpose of drying wrinkle paint.  It works like an oven of sorts.

    -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars ...

     
  • At 2:08 AM, Anonymous Tom Mills said…

    For AK brown I have used a Ford color 'Desert Tan Poly' Ford code (9N). This color sprayed over wrinkle looks original.

    -- Tom Mills

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  • At 3:38 AM, Anonymous jim rozen said…

    In article <bf56bfa5ea3c44dbd75fec2183341@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>, Pete_O says...

    Has anyone used the brown wrinkle paint that Kennedy sells for their toolboxes?

    Seems like a pretty good match.

    Jim

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  • At 7:23 AM, Anonymous cuhu...@webtv.net said…

    Get some of that thick wood graining paint like they used to put on those old automobile dashboards and thingys long ago. www.eastwood.com    and    www.hmn.com    probally advertize it. You want to remove rust? (rust never sleeps)     www.tinmantech.com cuhulin

     

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