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Wednesday, March 22, 2006

Coral Calcium

Has anyone used the subject nutrient and what was your experience?

thanks.

Erica MM

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24 Comments:

  • At 8:23 AM, Anonymous Shirley B. said…

    Hi Erica, you must wake up at weird hours of the night also. That is, if you've seen the same paid program that I have. A man with the last name of Barefoot? or some such has what seems to be a discussion  of high volumes of calcium (preferably this coral calcium), and, by the way, if you call ###/###-#### you can get info on the calcium or order his books.

    Normally these things are scams, but his has just enuf of a grain of truth in it . . . He mentioned an article in JAMA, and I did a search on high volumes of calcium, but it turned up a humungous number of articles, so I haven't gone thru them yet.

    I've seen a lot on high doses of calcium (I think he's only advocating 1600mg/day) and how it can do the body good, but his claims are a bit out there!

    -- Shirley B. ASMS List #6 @aol.com> wrote in message ...

     
  • At 9:38 AM, Anonymous Ericam2 said…

    Shirley - I saw the same infomercial!  I don't think he's advocating high volumes of calcium as much as coral calcium.  which he says is even better than calcium He thinks calcium as a mineral is extremtly important because it the most prominent one in our body.

    I ordered the 2 books.  for my friend of has MS.  I'll look thru them of course.  Then if I'm convinced and I've run out of my cal/mag stuff.  I'll get the coral calcium.

    the one thing he got wrong was to stick your face in the sun for 1 or 2 hrs.  a day for your vit D.  And ruin my skin!  No way - get the D thru pills!!!

    Erica MM

     
  • At 7:53 PM, Anonymous Michael said…

    In article <20020618151958.05132.00001@mb-fv.aol.com>, eric@aol.com says...

    Uhhh... there are hundreds and hundreds of kinds of coral, Erica.  

    Some of them have skeletons that are harder and tougher than marble (I have a carver friend who works a few kinds with only diamond tools because it destroys carbide bits in seconds), and others are more like soft chalk.   Skeletal protein content varies widely, and so does the content of other minerals.

    Powdered oyster shells are one of the cheapest and purest sources of assimilable calcium you're likely to find (a couple of bucks a kilo)... and besides that, many coral species are endangered and protected under international treaties.

    I wouldn't go there if you paid me.

    ((U))   M

     
  • At 1:38 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    I take 3 a day to alkalize my system. People only get cancer when their is acid.

     
  • At 2:23 AM, Anonymous Ericam2 said…

    Leave it to you Kip for having the right answers!  You were the one who posted the Roger McDougall post 2 Easters ago right after the MS walk that advised me to go on the Paleodiet.  Good job!

    Erica MM

     
  • At 3:53 AM, Anonymous Michael said…

    In article <20020619135428.05509.00001@mb-ca.aol.com>, eric@aol.com says...

    So, after I've explained the species differences your supplier may not take into account, the number of proteins and other minerals probably not taken into account, the fact that many corals are endangered and protected, *and* the fact that a source of calcium just as absorbable, just as abundant (more so, in fact) and vastly cheaper...

    ... you're still prepared to take a chance at unnecessarily contributing to further ecological destruction to follow a marketer's greedy whims?

    Sorry... I thought you gave a shit about humanity.

    (...and Kip, shame on you.)

    <plonk>

    ((U))   M

     
  • At 6:38 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael,                                                                            Let me see some sources. By the way about that humanity comment when it comes to old Greek philosophy, I follow Aristotle not Plato.                                   Kip

     
  • At 9:08 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael,                                                                            Let me see some sources. By the way about that humanity comment when it comes to old Greek philosophy, I follow Aristotle not Plato.                                   Kip

     
  • At 9:53 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael,                                                                            Let me see some sources. By the way about that humanity comment when it comes to old Greek philosophy, I follow Aristotle not Plato.                                   Kip

     
  • At 11:23 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael,                                                                            Let me see some sources. By the way about that humanity comment when it comes to old Greek philosophy, I follow Aristotle not Plato.                                   Kip

     
  • At 2:38 AM, Anonymous Michael said…

    In article <cbfe67b5.0206200836.54473@posting.google.com>, wodi@cox.net says...

    Start with this, Kip.

     
  • At 9:53 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Google wouldn't allow me to reply to Michael on the new thread he created on this subject so I'll reply here: I'll look at the links but as for Aristotle vs. Plato here's a link for Michael: http://www.neo-tech.com/orientation/

     
  • At 11:08 AM, Anonymous Michael said…

    In article <cbfe67b5.0206202010.40c17@posting.google.com>, wodi@cox.net says...



    Jesus H. Christ, Kip!  Are you NUTS?????

    This whole thing reads exactly like someone took Ayn Rand's Objectivism and condensed and reworded it all to serve the G8 and their transnational and criminal owner/operators as mental pap for the ignorant and disillusioned new-age pseudo-intellectual of the 21st century middle class.

    It qualifies as a fulminating fucking mental illness in a world being depleted, polluted and irretrievably spoiled by so-far relatively minor forms of the same sort of thinking by a vastly smaller population in control of even less destructive technologies than we possess and exploit today.

    I think what you need to do is to read John Galt's interminable radio speech in "Atlas Shrugged" (a vastly more semantically-coherent and readable statement of exactly the manifesto promulgated in this link you've provided,) and then ask youself what the world of 2040 will look like if this sort of garbage runs unchecked... and whether you'd like your children to live as middle aged adults in that world.

    Unfettered industry and unlimited growth (especially foisted on us all as "the salvation of humanity", which can only convince us to eat the world up faster still,) simply can't be made to work, Kip... no matter how hard we try... and can only end in the complete destruction of the planet and the extermination of humanity.

    No one needs this shit... as a species, we need to grow up and help *save* the world from this kind of insanity, Kip.  To glorify it to the point of calling it an expression of purest morality is to advocate genocide as holy work.

    The attitude of an industrialist fueled and fed on this philosophical bent is exactly as I said in the post you somehow couldn't reply to: "What I believe is good for *me* is good, period."  The rest follows.   Remember Gordon Gecko?

    ((U))   M

     
  • At 1:38 PM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 5:38 PM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 12:23 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 1:08 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 1:23 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 1:53 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 3:08 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 5:53 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael, I think this should have OT in the header. Google dosen't allow me to do that without creating a new thread. I considered crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it'd be on topic but I decided against that. From you're religous exclamation at the begining of your post, I guessed what the point of view would be. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" as well as several Ayn Rand book. I don't have any children yet, but I plan on being alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're only about my age. Don't worry the sky isn't falling. Bussiness people aren't out to destroy the world. Conspiracy theories are mostly fatasies for the paranoid.                                                                         Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 10:23 AM, Anonymous Michael said…

    In article <90911f95.0206210930.5e362@posting.google.com>, Wodi@cox.net says...



    You have me totally wrong, Kip.

    1)  The "religious expression" is nothing but a shocked expletive.   I'm not a religious/mystical person by any stretch of the imagination.

    2)  I plan on being alive in the 2040's if the world can support me still, but I'm not at all certain that I *want* to be alive then.   I'll be a very old man and dependant on a great deal of help (or at least cooperation) from my fellow man.   The reason I bought "your children" into this (even though I know you haven't any) is that *they* are the ones who'll be running the show around then.... people who'll be in in their 40's to 60's around then.   We are leaving them an increasingly wrecked and overpopulated (there will be something like 11 billion people here unless a catastrophe of more than Biblical proportions happens to prevent it,) planet with which to contend, not to mention the great many bitter wars that will likely be underway by then over rapidly dwindling supplies of useable fresh water.

    3)  I'm not talking about "conspiracies" in the sense of people discussing and agreeing upon the destruction of the planet... I'm not naive or paranoid enough to think there's some evil intent on the part of "business people" to destroy the world.   I'm talking about the fact that for decades now, there's been endless *talk* about the speed at which our current forms of progress are consuming and destroying the planet upon which we depend for our existence, there's been increasing understanding that the damage many people foretold is already a reality, there's been increasing agreement that something ought ot be done about it...  but still almost nothing is being done to mitigate or reverse any of it.

    Almost no one in a position to do so is the slightest bit interested in putting an end to global dependence on the "limitless growth" model of economics... and until that's done, human life on this planet (at least most of it) is doomed.

    The model of life/morality/business espoused by this "neo-tech" thing is strictly 19th century, and though it's got groovy implications for the short term prospects of any ambitious (and lucky) individual living in a time before the planet's ecological collapse becomes inescapable, it's completely incompatible with the survival of the human species.

    Think of it this way, Kip.   There are well over a billion people in India right now... can you *imagine* what would happen to that population if everyone in it tried to live according the the "morality" upon which this neo-tech thing is based?   Would you care to conjecture about the fate of Africa (currently in the throes of both a population explosion and the decimation of its adult population,) if every person alive there today were to attempt to live this way?

    It's a megalomaniac's fantasy, Kip, and the sooner we find a cure for it (or at least a straitjacket for each of its greatest sufferers,) the sooner we can collect our wits and begin to fix the damage it's already wrought.

    ((U))   M

     
  • At 10:38 AM, Anonymous Kip King said…

    Michael,                                                                               I think this should have OT in the header but posting through Google I can't do it without creating a new thread. I thought about crossposting this to alt.neo-tech where it wouldn't be off topic but decided not to. I knew from your exclamation at the beginning of your post what your reaction was. I don't have any children yet but I plan to be alive myself in 2040. Don't you? You're about my age. Don't worry. The sky isn't falling. Conspiracy theories are mostly baloney. Most business people are not out to destroy the world. I've read "Atlas Shrugged" and also several Ayn Rand books. I any case, I do my own thinking. I don't let a book do it for me. Your speach sounds like the fear filled rantings on the anti neo-tech comments on the site. Maybe you should post something there.                                                                                               Best wishes, Kip

     
  • At 2:23 PM, Anonymous Carole said…

    Kip, I have 8 identical messages from you. Why? I read about endangered coral off the Florida coast and also listened to a program about it on OPB today. Not everthing is paranoid conspiracy based.

    Carole

     

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